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go ahead, supervisor wiener, if you had additional questions. >> supervisor wiener: orc. okay. also to the puc. >> president chiu: mr. harrington. >> supervisor wiener: there's been some discussion about ultimately a local build-out being financed in some way by the revenues from the cca, whether it's with cash, or through bonding. and supervisor farrell referred to a concern that it just simply would not generate enough cash to be able to bond around it. so if you could respond to that. >> sure, supervisor. when you're trying to go out and build a major facility to produce power, the normal thing to do is to go out and borrow the money, borrow enough money to pay your debt service while constructing the facility and then when the facility is put in place, that revenue that then now generates by selling that power pays back the bonds. so that's the process for it. the idea would be that, as we work through the process, by having cca out there, by having a customer base, by having a revenue base, we become believable to bond rating agencies and those that might lend us the money
go ahead, supervisor wiener, if you had additional questions. >> supervisor wiener: orc. okay. also to the puc. >> president chiu: mr. harrington. >> supervisor wiener: there's been some discussion about ultimately a local build-out being financed in some way by the revenues from the cca, whether it's with cash, or through bonding. and supervisor farrell referred to a concern that it just simply would not generate enough cash to be able to bond around it. so if you could...
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. >> president chiu: supervisor wiener. >> supervisor elsberndwiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you. i have questions for the puc and for the city attorney. and i will preface this in terms of the amendments offered and it seems like it's the first two that are at issue, since it looks like the the puc is agreeing to the third. to me, i think they're very good arguments on both sides of this, and i know that, you know, there are a lot of people who would like to see this voted up or down, either move forward with the program or we don't move forward with the program and after all the years that the agency has put into this program, i certainly think that they're entitled to know whether the program is important or not. what i don't want to do is send them back with something passed, and signed into law, that's going to cause them to sort of spin around chasing their tails and ultimately the program doesn't happen because what we've inserted in is a poison pill. i'm not interested in putting any poison pills in here so i have some questions, i'm trying to ferret out whether particula
. >> president chiu: supervisor wiener. >> supervisor elsberndwiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you. i have questions for the puc and for the city attorney. and i will preface this in terms of the amendments offered and it seems like it's the first two that are at issue, since it looks like the the puc is agreeing to the third. to me, i think they're very good arguments on both sides of this, and i know that, you know, there are a lot of people who would like to see this...
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wiener for taking a role on this. we are trying to clean up archaic law trying to punish small homeowners trying to rent spots and not in compliance with the law that we are aware of. we think the passage of this legislation and amnesty program will encourage people to come forward, comply with this law that's been on the books for quite sometime and end up in an increase in revenue going in to the general fund or mta fund. we would like to encourage the treasurer, as supervisor wiener recommended that we make this a payment yearly than currently asking someone to come down to the tax collector's office and pay this. if we could simply annually bill them i think there will be a net gain in revenue and people receive a bill from the city. obviously they are going to want to pay it. thank you for your time. i hope that you'll support this legislation. >> madam chair, if i may, there were two minor amendments. i just wanted to say what they were before we do public comment. while the first speaker is still up. one i ment
wiener for taking a role on this. we are trying to clean up archaic law trying to punish small homeowners trying to rent spots and not in compliance with the law that we are aware of. we think the passage of this legislation and amnesty program will encourage people to come forward, comply with this law that's been on the books for quite sometime and end up in an increase in revenue going in to the general fund or mta fund. we would like to encourage the treasurer, as supervisor wiener...
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. >> supervisor wiener: thank you. >> does that answer? >> president chiu: thank you, supervisor ween. president chiu. >> president chiu: first i want to take a moment and thank everyone in the chamber who has been working for years on this project, from the community advocates to our colleagues to our predecessors and particularly our city staff. thank you. it has been 14 years since cca was first discussed at the board, eight years since the board of supervisors moved forward, a desire for our city to consider this, over a year with this contract on the table. and from my perspective, i do think it is time for us to move forward. i have supported the concept of cca for the entire time i've been in public life. but we know that there have been previous attempts to move this forward which i was not as comfortable with what we have today. i think there have been a number of changes in recent months and weeks that have made this better. first, i want to highlight what mr. harrington has stated, the fact that we are seein
. >> supervisor wiener: thank you. >> does that answer? >> president chiu: thank you, supervisor ween. president chiu. >> president chiu: first i want to take a moment and thank everyone in the chamber who has been working for years on this project, from the community advocates to our colleagues to our predecessors and particularly our city staff. thank you. it has been 14 years since cca was first discussed at the board, eight years since the board of supervisors moved...
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supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. chair. i am going to be voting in favor of cca today. i had been hoping that we could add some additional language about the opting in versus opting out. unfortunately, as we discussed before, that didn't happen. i will be completely candid. i struggled mightily with this contract. in the past, i have been expressed public support of cca, and have always indicated that it would depend on the contract. i very, very meticulously and carefully evaluated this contract. i believe that competition is a good thing. i know that pg&e has talked about wanting to offer their own alternative. and i think that's a good thing. and i look forward to that competition. i believe that this is a wise investment. we will be investing funds from puc power enterprise. i think that that investment is capped. i believe the city's exposure under this contract is quite limited, and what we do have an opportunity to do here is to move forward with clean energy. i've looked carefully at what's
supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. chair. i am going to be voting in favor of cca today. i had been hoping that we could add some additional language about the opting in versus opting out. unfortunately, as we discussed before, that didn't happen. i will be completely candid. i struggled mightily with this contract. in the past, i have been expressed public support of cca, and have always indicated that it would depend on the contract. i very, very meticulously and...
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. >> president chiu: supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you. you know, i have to say the opt-out-opt-out issue -- and this is not in any way a criticism of anyone because there's been a lot of stuff that's been happening, and conversations in the last few days, and few weeks. and, you know, i think it's unfortunate that the -- this amendment about the opt-in, or the preopt-in, or the market opt-in, whatever you want it call it, is coming up now, and i know we've had a response from the puc, but it feels a little bit seat of the pants to me. i, frankly -- you know, i think, ideally it makes sense to figure out what the level of support is ahead of time. but i don't know that i -- that we've even gotten a definitive response about what is possible and what's not possible. and i know that -- mr. harrington is retiring on thursday. you know, frankly, to me, it seems like for this specific issue, because the opt-out-opt-in issue has been at heart of so much of the public debate about this that it seems to me that we should figure out if it is feasib
. >> president chiu: supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you. you know, i have to say the opt-out-opt-out issue -- and this is not in any way a criticism of anyone because there's been a lot of stuff that's been happening, and conversations in the last few days, and few weeks. and, you know, i think it's unfortunate that the -- this amendment about the opt-in, or the preopt-in, or the market opt-in, whatever you want it call it, is coming up now, and i know we've had a...
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supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. chair. i am going to be voting in favor of cca today. i had been hoping that we could add some additional language about the opting in versus opting out.
supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. chair. i am going to be voting in favor of cca today. i had been hoping that we could add some additional language about the opting in versus opting out.
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supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: mr. president, thank you. i will not be supporting this continuance. and this is the first i'm hearing that any member of this body was interested in a continuance. this legislation has been thoroughly and fully vetted and i believe what supervisor olague is referring to is a portion of this legislation. right now, if you rent out a spot in your residence or your building to someone who doesn't live there, our planning code requires that the person live within 1250 feet of the parking spot. this is in the planning code. it's two and a half blocks. it's unenforceable. it depresses the price of parking inconsistent with city policy and also undermines the city policy of disaggregating housing and parking. it also has problems because, if you have only a small pool of people to whom you can rent as a small property owner, where whoever rents your spot is likely to have access to your home, you have less choice in terms of making sure that you're comfortable with the person to whom you are renting. so this legisla
supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: mr. president, thank you. i will not be supporting this continuance. and this is the first i'm hearing that any member of this body was interested in a continuance. this legislation has been thoroughly and fully vetted and i believe what supervisor olague is referring to is a portion of this legislation. right now, if you rent out a spot in your residence or your building to someone who doesn't live there, our planning code requires that the person...
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. >> supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. chairman. just so folks don't think that any of us are sort of log gagging around, for many, many months, i have received a very, very consistent message from everyone who i've ever spoken to about this. the advocates in favor, people against, the puc, that you have to do an opt-out, and an opt-in is not permissible, period. and that's all i ever heard. and so we were evaluating this, or at least i was, do we want to do this, given that state law restricts us from having anything other than an opt out. late last night, and then this morning, was the very first time that i was ever even informed by anyone that, wait, we might actually have the possibility of doing this preopt in, or whatever you want to call it, that that is actually legal. that had not been conveyed to me before then. so -- and then received the language, walked into the board chambers. so i want to be clear this is not a situation where there's been something known, dangling out there six or nine months and then someone perks
. >> supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. chairman. just so folks don't think that any of us are sort of log gagging around, for many, many months, i have received a very, very consistent message from everyone who i've ever spoken to about this. the advocates in favor, people against, the puc, that you have to do an opt-out, and an opt-in is not permissible, period. and that's all i ever heard. and so we were evaluating this, or at least i was, do we want to do...
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. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. president. at the request of the appellant, in order to have a full opportunity for a briefing in this matter, once we open the hearing, i'm going to be moving to continue this item to october 23. so i understand from the city attorney that we do need to formally open the hearing, take public comment, and then i'll be able to offer the motion to continue. >> president chiu: i've already opened the hearing right before you spoke so having opened it, supervisor wiener is making a motion to continue. is there a second? seconded by supervisor olague. let's open it up to public comment. if there are members of the public that wish to speak to this item or the motion to continue. seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor wiener has made a motion to continue these items to october 23. that motion has been seconded. can we do that without objection? without objection that is the case. madam clerk could you call items 32 through 35. >> clerk calvillo: 32 a public hearing interested in
. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. president. at the request of the appellant, in order to have a full opportunity for a briefing in this matter, once we open the hearing, i'm going to be moving to continue this item to october 23. so i understand from the city attorney that we do need to formally open the hearing, take public comment, and then i'll be able to offer the motion to continue. >> president chiu: i've already opened the hearing right before you spoke so having opened...
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beth of those sponsors of legislation supervisor campos and supervisor wiener are on their way. they are actually coming from the mtc across the bay at the moment. rather than start immediately, i would like to take ten-minute recess and we will come right back, just to make sure we find out where they are along the way so we will be back in ten minutes. to members of the public, given we have a small window or break, if you haven't filled out a yellow speaker card, please come up and fill out your name. the cards are over here. we will be calling speakers for public comment with the speaker cards. thank you very much. we will recess and be back in ten m m >>> hello, welcome back to the regular budget and finance. we came back from recess. i'm carmen chu, joined by supervisor avalos, vice chair. supervisor kim will join us shortly. i'm joined by supervisor campos and ferl. will you read item 6 and 7. >> 6, resolution authorizing public daily use commission subject to daily use to lawn tfp clean power sf, approving local assisting services for clean power sf customers and authori
beth of those sponsors of legislation supervisor campos and supervisor wiener are on their way. they are actually coming from the mtc across the bay at the moment. rather than start immediately, i would like to take ten-minute recess and we will come right back, just to make sure we find out where they are along the way so we will be back in ten minutes. to members of the public, given we have a small window or break, if you haven't filled out a yellow speaker card, please come up and fill out...
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supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: i think that response frankly speaks volumes that, you know, that there's been no thought given to how much time would be required. i want to be very clear. the planning -- this is planning code. the planning department has already evaluated this. the planning staff supports it. the planning commission voted to support it. they've done that analysis already. this is a citywide piece of legislation. it's not specific to market octavia. and i don't see any reason to do a continuance. >> president chiu: supervisor avalos. >> supervisor avalos: thank you. we had this discussion at budget and finance committee and i ended up supporting the legislation, and most of all because it really seemed to be difficult to enforce this rule. and i just felt it was probably just too much work to actually want to weigh in on something that was not necessarily going to be enforceable. so i'm actually -- i seconded the motion to continue, but, you know, i expect that we'll have a vote probably -- it might not pass, the continuance, and i'll be ready to vote for the
supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: i think that response frankly speaks volumes that, you know, that there's been no thought given to how much time would be required. i want to be very clear. the planning -- this is planning code. the planning department has already evaluated this. the planning staff supports it. the planning commission voted to support it. they've done that analysis already. this is a citywide piece of legislation. it's not specific to market octavia. and i don't...
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supervisor wiener and i have been coming back from the metropolitan transportation commission, where we ready the city and county of san francisco. first in terms -- there are some amendments to the resolution that is before you authorizing the puc to launch the clean power program. i have copies of those amendments and respectfully request the budget committee at some point make the amendments along the lines that are detailed in the document. i have the clerk -- i think you have them. make sure you have a copy and we have copies available to the public, if people would like them. let me begin by saying that this has been a long time coming. community choice aggregation is something that the san francisco public utilities commission and local agency commission have been working on since 2004. i would like to begin the presentation today by taking the time to acknowledge the amazing work done over the years by the san francisco public utilities commission. in particular, i want to highlight and recognize the work of the general manager, ed harrington, who is here and presenting short
supervisor wiener and i have been coming back from the metropolitan transportation commission, where we ready the city and county of san francisco. first in terms -- there are some amendments to the resolution that is before you authorizing the puc to launch the clean power program. i have copies of those amendments and respectfully request the budget committee at some point make the amendments along the lines that are detailed in the document. i have the clerk -- i think you have them. make...
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wiener also. >> thank you for the presentation. colleagues, any questions at the moment? supervisor kim? >> i just wanted to go over some of the concerns and you had brought up on the program questions. i was hoping you could talk in more detail about some of the ideas around multilingual customer education. i know one of the concerns that comes up among colleagues was that seniors are not english-speaking consumers. they need to be properly educated. if you would talk about the assurances around education. >> right. we could use help we can get. recommendations are warmly accepted. we have about a million dollars set aside for marketing. the discussion is we go out and heavily market in multilingual ways. probably tv spots, along with radio. clearly most would be mail, though. it would be in people's mailboxes. we would also engage community groups to work with us in different communities, especially multilingual to make sure word gets out to people. again it is no interest to catch anyone. any recommendations you might have for how we hit niche communities we might othe
wiener also. >> thank you for the presentation. colleagues, any questions at the moment? supervisor kim? >> i just wanted to go over some of the concerns and you had brought up on the program questions. i was hoping you could talk in more detail about some of the ideas around multilingual customer education. i know one of the concerns that comes up among colleagues was that seniors are not english-speaking consumers. they need to be properly educated. if you would talk about the...
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this item, eight, is brought to us by supervisor wiener. welcome to budget and finance committee. or back to it, i should say. would you like to make opening comments. >> perhaps once the chamber clears i will be in a position to do so. thank you. before you is legislation i have sponsored to make it easier for property owners and those renting a handful of parking spaces to pay the property tax and provide a path for those largely unbeknownst paying by obligation to come forward, become legal and begin paying the tax. parking tax applies to all rentals to parking spots, whether mega parking lot operator or renting out your garage to someone who doesn't live in the building. tenant doesn't implicate parking tax but other types of rental does. it is -- i have heard whether the intent in 70s was to imply the tax to property owners but nevertheless that is how the tax is worded. for years and years people have been renting out spots connected to residential dwelling, whether single family home or apartment whether there are extra spots after tenants have taken a few spots. it's done
this item, eight, is brought to us by supervisor wiener. welcome to budget and finance committee. or back to it, i should say. would you like to make opening comments. >> perhaps once the chamber clears i will be in a position to do so. thank you. before you is legislation i have sponsored to make it easier for property owners and those renting a handful of parking spaces to pay the property tax and provide a path for those largely unbeknownst paying by obligation to come forward, become...